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http://www.flickr.com/photos/hyku/How social media has caused the scope of marketing to expand inside organizations, why customer service needs to pay attention to customer influence, the concept of relinquishing oversight as a way of regaining control, aligning social media policy with business strategy and integrating social media into destination websites featuring Jeremiah Owyang (@jowyang), who blogs at Web Strategy, is a partner at the Altimeter Group and is set to deliver the opening keynote at the third annual Digital Impact Conference May 6-7, 2010 in NYC. 
 
 
SHOW NOTES

01:03 -- A discussion of the different speakers lined up to present at the Digital impact conference in New York City May 6-7, 2010, now in its third year. 

  • Shashi Bellamkonda, social media swami — aka director of social media, Network Solutions
  • Stacie Bright, senior communications marketing manager, Unilever
  • LaSandra Brill, manager, Service Provider Web and Social Media Marketing group, Cisco Systems
  • Scott DeYager, social media supervisor, Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.
  • Jason Forget, communications manager, GE Energy
  • Doug Frisbie, national social media and marketing integration manager, Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.
  • Andrew Lark, vice president, Dell
  • Jennifer Preston, social media editor, New York Times
  • Jeremy Rawitch, manager, corporate communications, Southern California Edison
  • Kevin Roderick, director of the UCLA Newsroom, University of California, Los Angeles
  • Colonel Bryan Salas, director of public affairs, U.S. Marine Corps Public Affairs
  • Katie Dowd, director of new media, Department of State, Bureau of Public Affairs
  • Gabriel Stricker, director, Global Communications & Public Affairs, Google, Inc.


06:27 -- An overview of the broader trends in social media based on Jeremiah Owyang's research at the Altimeter Group.

07:41 -- Heather Armstrong's experience trying to fix a broken Maytag washing machine, and how she finally managed to get results by warning her twitter followers  "so that you may never have to suffer like we have: do not ever buy a Maytag. I repeat: our Maytag experience has been a nightmare." Interestingly enough, Forbes.com story about the incident quoting Pete Blackshaw, the previous guest on this podcast, "The problem with call centers and consumer relations departments is that they tend to look at consumers in a vacuum, independent of influence," which suggests that organizations need to look beyond individual customer interactions to try evaluate the customer's social media influence, which is one of things that social CRM attempts to accomplish.  The take away, according to Jeremiah, is that what happens in support can quickly become a marketing or public relations incident. 

08:27 -- "Customers don't care which department you are in.  They just want their problem fixed. The scope of marketing has grown significantly... Companies are siloed and it's very difficult [for them] to think holistically about their overall customer experience," says Jeremiah who will address this theme in his keynote at the 2010 Digital Impact Conference.

09:25 --  A discussion of analysts Charlene Li's upcoming book "Open Leadership," which explores the theme of how leaders can let go of control in order to gain more power back, because the power has shifted to those who are using social computing platforms and organizations need to acknowledge this.

10:24 -- Glassdoor.com, a new website where employees can rate their employers and Unvarnished, which allow you to rate your colleagues and the quality of their work, both reinforce the notion that there are no more secrets.

11:00 -- According to Jeremiah, social media policy is a key component of effective online organizational communications, and he says there are actually three different policies that organizations need to consider developing. The first is a corporate policy, which would address how to deal with the social Web, and in particular, during a crisis.  The second is an employee disclosure policy, which would tell employees what they can say and what they can say in public spaces online.  And the third one, which he says most companies don't have in place and which might have kept Nestle out of trouble, is a community policy, which would dictate how community members should behave and describe to dos and don'ts.

11:56 -- An example of a community policy Jeremiah's seen that he thinks is well done is Dogster's Community Guidelines.  He also says early adopters like Intel, Microsoft and Sun have had community policies in place for some time now.

12:51 -- Best Buy's is good example of an organization that has an effective social media policy designed to work for employees who may not have advanced degrees.

13:20 -- Inside the enterprise, legal is a common pocket of resistance.  Smart strategists should engage them early on. And their are often turf wars between corporate marketing and the social media team because they usually have different ideas about how to achieve their objectives.  Also, product managers are typically inclined to approach situations differently from strategists, because they want to build online communities around products, and the strategists want to build community around a lifestyle or a brand.

14:01 -- When it comes to policing social media policies, Jeremiah suggests turning that over to the employees themselves and crowd sourcing those capabilities. Use an internal online community to allow people to call out when people are doing things wrong and doing things right.

15:27 -- There's nothing wrong with a measured, step-by-step approach to social media policy development.

16:10 -- Not all organizations should be rushing into social media. In Jeremiah's opinion, to mitigate risk organizations should approach social media when they have the right research and plans in place.  Companies need to think through what it means to be social, and Jeremiah encourages a pragmatic approach.

17:01 -- Using mainstream media advertising to send people to their Facebook page without considering where the transaction occurs. "If you're making money through ecommerce on your corporate site, why would you be so quick to send traffic, whether it be from a chicklet or a Facebook advertisement, away from your site? Most companies say because I want to have trust or word of mouth, but they haven't thought it through carefully about the ramifications and what that actually means," says Jeremiah.

18:06 -- Customers visiting your corporate website may be further down the sales funnel, so you may not want to be so quick to send them away.  The future of social engagement, as Jeremiah sees it, is integrating the social experience into your own destination website, and he's going to show a framework for achieving that at the Digital Impact Conference May 6-7, 2010 in NYC.

19:14 -- In terms of who Jeremiah Owyang looks to as thought leaders in the social media space, he mentions Steve Rubel, Charlene Li, David Armano, Jen McClure, Marshall Kirkpatrick, Ben Parr and Louis Gray because he sees them putting out new thoughts instead of just rehashing what's out there already.

21:30 -- End

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ABOUT THE PODCASTERS
@EricSchwartzman provides online communication training, strategy and governance to public relations, public affairs, corporate communications and marketing specialists. He has extensive experience integrating emerging information technologies into organizational communications programs through public speaking, hands-on training seminars, consulting and the development of corporate policies on social media usage.

His clients have included Boeing, BYU, City National Bank, Environmental Defense Fund, Government of Singapore, Johnson & Johnson, Southern California Edison, UCLA, US Dept. of State, United States Army, US Embassy of Athens, the United States Marine Corps and many small to medium-sized companies and agencies.

Eric is the instructor behind PRSA’s top-rated social media and emerging treads training seminars, the Social Media Boot Camp and the Social Media Master Class, which are offered monthly in the US through PRSA.  How social media has caused the scope of marketing to expand inside organizations, why customer service needs to pay attention to customer influence, the concept of relinquishing oversight as a way of regaining control, aligning social media policy with business strategy and integrating social media into destination websites featuring Jeremiah Owyang (@jowyang), who blogs at Web Strategy, is a partner at the Altimeter Group and is set to deliver the opening keynote at the third annual Digital Impact Conference May 6-7, 2010 in NYC. 

SHOW NOTES
01:03 -- A discussion of the different speakers lined up to present at the Digital impact conference in New York City May 6-7, 2010, now in its third year. 

  • Shashi Bellamkonda, social media swami — aka director of social media, Network Solutions
  • Stacie Bright, senior communications marketing manager, Unilever
  • LaSandra Brill, manager, Service Provider Web and Social Media Marketing group, Cisco Systems
  • Scott DeYager, social media supervisor, Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.
  • Jason Forget, communications manager, GE Energy
  • Doug Frisbie, national social media and marketing integration manager, Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.
  • Andrew Lark, vice president, Dell
  • Jennifer Preston, social media editor, New York Times
  • Jeremy Rawitch, manager, corporate communications, Southern California Edison
  • Kevin Roderick, director of the UCLA Newsroom, University of California, Los Angeles
  • Colonel Bryan Salas, director of public affairs, U.S. Marine Corps Public Affairs
  • Katie Dowd, director of new media, Department of State, Bureau of Public Affairs
  • Gabriel Stricker, director, Global Communications & Public Affairs, Google, Inc.

REGISTER
06:27 -- An overview of the broader trends in social media based on Jeremiah Owyang's research at the Altimeter Group.
07:41 -- Heather Armstrong's experience trying to fix a broken Maytag washing machine, and how she finally managed to get results by warning her twitter followers  "so that you may never have to suffer like we have: do not ever buy a Maytag. I repeat: our Maytag experience has been a nightmare." Interestingly enough, Forbes.com story about the incident quoting Pete Blackshaw, the previous guest on this podcast, "The problem with call centers and consumer relations departments is that they tend to look at consumers in a vacuum, independent of influence," which suggests that organizations need to look beyond individual customer interactions to try evaluate the customer's social media influence, which is one of things that social CRM attempts to accomplish.  The take away, according to Jeremiah, is that what happens in support can quickly become a marketing or public relations incident. 
08:27 -- "Customers don't care which department you are in.  They just want their problem fixed. The scope of marketing has grown significantly... Companies are siloed and it's very difficult [for them] to think holistically about their overall customer experience," says Jeremiah who will address this theme in his keynote at the 2010 Digital Impact Conference.
09:25 --  A discussion of analysts Charlene Li's upcoming book "Open Leadership," which explores the theme of how leaders can let go of control in order to gain more power back, because the power has shifted to those who are using social computing platforms and organizations need to acknowledge this.
10:24 -- Glassdoor.com, a new website where employees can rate their employers and Unvarnished, which allow you to rate your colleagues and the quality of their work, both reinforce the notion that there are no more secrets.
11:00 -- According to Jeremiah, social media policy is a key component of effective online organizational communications, and he says there are actually three different policies that organizations need to consider developing. The first is a corporate policy, which would address how to deal with the social Web, and in particular, during a crisis.  The second is an employee disclosure policy, which would tell employees what they can say and what they can say in public spaces online.  And the third one, which he says most companies don't have in place and which might have kept Nestle out of trouble, is a community policy, which would dictate how community members should behave and describe to dos and don'ts.
11:56 -- An example of a community policy Jeremiah's seen that he thinks is well done is Dogster's Community Guidelines.  He also says early adopters like Intel, Microsoft and Sun have had community policies in place for some time now.

12:51 -- Best Buy's is good example of an organization that has an effective social media policy designed to work for employees who may not have advanced degrees.

13:20 -- Inside the enterprise, legal is a common pocket of resistance.  Smart strategists should engage them early on. And their are often turf wars between corporate marketing and the social media team because they usually have different ideas about how to achieve their objectives.  Also, product managers are typically inclined to approach situations differently from strategists, because they want to build online communities around products, and the strategists want to build community around a lifestyle or a brand.

14:01 -- When it comes to policing social media policies, Jeremiah suggests turning that over to the employees themselves and crowd sourcing those capabilities. Use an internal online community to allow people to call out when people are doing things wrong and doing things right.

15:27 -- There's nothing wrong with a measured, step-by-step approach to social media policy development.

16:10 -- Not all organizations should be rushing into social media. In Jeremiah's opinion, to mitigate risk organizations should approach social media when they have the right research and plans in place.  Companies need to think through what it means to be social, and Jeremiah encourages a pragmatic approach.

17:01 -- Using mainstream media advertising to send people to their Facebook page without considering where the transaction occurs. "If you're making money through ecommerce on your corporate site, why would you be so quick to send traffic, whether it be from a chicklet or a Facebook advertisement, away from your site? Most companies say because I want to have trust or word of mouth, but they haven't thought it through carefully about the ramifications and what that actually means," says Jeremiah.

18:06 -- Customers visiting your corporate website may be further down the sales funnel, so you may not want to be so quick to send them away.  The future of social engagement, as Jeremiah sees it, is integrating the social experience into your own destination website, and he's going to show a framework for achieving that at the Digital Impact Conference May 6-7, 2010 in NYC.

19:14 -- In terms of who Jeremiah Owyang looks to as thought leaders in the social media space, he mentions Steve Rubel, Charlene Li, David Armano, Jen McClure, Marshall Kirkpatrick, Ben Parr and Louis Gray because he sees them putting out new thoughts instead of just rehashing what's out there already.

21:30 -- End

RECOMMENDED EPISODES
ABOUT THE PODCASTERS
@EricSchwartzman provides online communication training, strategy and governance to public relations, public affairs, corporate communications and marketing specialists. He has extensive experience integrating emerging information technologies into organizational communications programs through public speaking, hands-on training seminars, consulting and the development of corporate policies on social media usage.
His clients have included Boeing, BYU, City National Bank, Environmental Defense Fund, Government of Singapore, Johnson & Johnson, Southern California Edison, UCLA, US Dept. of State, United States Army, US Embassy of Athens, the United States Marine Corps and many small to medium-sized companies and agencies.
Eric is the instructor behind PRSA’s top-rated social media and emerging treads training seminars, the Social Media Boot Camp and the Social Media Master Class, which are offered monthly in the US through PRSA.


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